4 coastal holdings/county. This works well, especially in coastal duchies (extra buildings for cities basically double their tax income). I revoked it for myself and became a count worchester as I believe I am supposed to be. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. As Poland, I conquered the Pommeranian tribes to the north. . . I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. My income in that province increased greatly. Step3: Give away the. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. a temple holding, so I wasn't getting any advantages and should give it so a vassal. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. If you control a city and isn't a republic you should have a "wrong type of holding in demesne" alert at the top of the screen. After clicking it, I get a notice saying that Wrong Type of Holding in Demesne. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Alternatively, if that county level title is held by a mayor, I think he. 19 coastal. Demesne income. Studying arcane knowledge lets mages tap into the forces of nature and elements and form them into powerful spells. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was…What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. . Hi My question is, what are the consequences (cons and maybe there are some pros) of having a a wrong holding type or a big demense? From what I know: Cons of having a big demense: - Problems with taxes? Cons of having a wrong holding type: -. Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. And how I can change this. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. If you give it to a vasall you will get at least 45/50% or more percent of the base income. . If a character owns an additional holding that is of a different type from this first holding, he or she will get the wrong holding type penalty on that holding. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. 1 coastal holdings/county. 7: Barcelona. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. What is the actual penalty for holding these?They must personally hold a City in that province (a vassal holding it doesn't count). Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. but this holdings are…For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Thank you. After I let a vassal have control of it. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. CryptoFor example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Fast forward a generation and the. It is also possible to see the opinion of an arbitrary character A toward another character B : Right-click on the portrait of character B. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Fast forward a generation and the. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?Facts and opinions are not the same thing. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. It includes the vassal's demesne income, liege tax from their own vassals, and trade income. A city holding. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. top of page. Each form of government has preferred and allowed settlements, and will get "Wrong government type" (-75% levies and income) penalty while holding other types of settlements directly. There are four systems of government feudalism, theocracy, republic and tribal. How to deal with this issue? 2) Title loss on Succession ( 2 duchies and 1 city which was already granted. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. 5: Tunis. Merchant Republics aside, players can only hold Tribes (if Tribal) or Baronies (if Feudal). . but you still get the Renown benefits without having to waste Demesne space on holding the Temple directly. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. A castle holding uses one of your holdings the same way a county capital does. . Your character is always a noble. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. What is the actual penalty for holding these?Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Holder Type; Also found in: Thesaurus, Legal, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. . To create the new vassal either nightclick a character and grant them the title, or click the Wrong Type of Holding Pop-Up and rightclick the Holding on the bottom left and press on Create New Vassal. Last edited by Nea's Nose ; Mar 17, 2021 @ 8:18pm. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. So, I'm the king of England. . ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland. So the pope and other catholics went into a crusade, since I'm orthodox I…I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. . I was playing as Matilda. . So playing as earl of dublin and I have 4 titles at the moment. Empty holding slots in demesne provinces serve as grazing grounds for the nomadic population and armies. 3 coastal holdings/county. Thank you. They are not the right type of holding. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. 700+. What is the actual penalty for holding these? The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. I now get the warning/message "Wrong type of holding in Demesne"; what does that do? It doesn't say what penalties there are. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Also, if you are not at your demesne limit you can hold onto wrong holdings. . I hold Leicester as Earl. The biggest counties in the game, such as Madurai, have 7 baronies each, while the smallest, such as the Isle of Man, have only one. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. They are not the right type of holding. . . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. as you cannot build multiple tribal holdings in one county and get crippling penalties for wrong holding type. . So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. All but 1 are coastal. . So holding the wrong holding type is almost never worth it. The biggest penalty, though, is that you're basically spending demesne points for worthless holdings. Counts and Barons earn income from their demesne, they pay a percentage to their Duke, who pays a percentage of their total income to their King, who pays a percentage of their total income to their Emperor. How do I make stone hillfort in Crusader Kings 2?Ĭlick on the “village” holding (marked with a green arrow and USUALLY. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. They are not the right type of holding. 700+. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . Fort level. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. . Thank you. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. So you can have an entire province or a castle within it. Bishoprics: A middle ground between baronies and cities. They are not the right type of holding. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Fast forward a generation and the. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. 1) Wrong type of holding in Demesne, did not changed when i gave it away to my second born son. Saves tons of time if you inherit lots of land through crusades/holy wars. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. . A ruler's demesne limit is based on tier, personal and spouse stewardship, succession type, and centralization law. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. You lose 75% of the. They are not the right type of holding. For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. The three holdings in question were 2 cities and a bishopric that I had recently conqured. . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. 5 for a tribe, 4 for a castle, 8 for a temple,. And how I can change this. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. For example, whenever you propose peace to. Hi, When winning a holy war for Toledo, I get 8 holdings too many under my demesne. de·mesne (dĭ-mān′, -mēn′) n. Despite assigning all baronies and bishoprics to courtiers I still. . Oh, be a jerk to the emperor, guess you're going to go camping. I don't understand this. . how do I change it so the county is controlled by the castle? (i know how to change the owners of the wrong demense type, but in current format I can only gove the. . There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. i have a 7 holding capital. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. One 6-holding. What is the actual penalty for holding these? I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". makes sense. Showing 1 - 14 of 14 comments. I always build castles (when it lets me choose). Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. The solutions are either getting the right type of holding to be the county capital, either by building a new holding of the correct type or revoking the title of another holding of the correct type in the county, or give the county to someone else. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in mediæval Europe, Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. - Added Casus Belli type flags 'apply_short_occ_mod' and 'apply_short_occ_mod'. You can check that by clicking the shield to the to left of the bishopric in the province screen. CryptoI don't understand this. Im a duke now and to make a merchant republic I have heard I need to be a king, im assuming the negative opinion modifier for wrong holding type will disappear then so putting that aside Id like to know how to make a bishop the head of a province. ago • Edited 8 yr. . will have the -20 wrong government type opinion. A separate tax rate applies to each government type. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. The above-mentioned most important and obvious factors are your demesne limit (top right corner of your screen; this is the number of counties or baronies you hold personally) and the number of ducal titles you hold if you're a king or emperor (this can't be above 2 or you face opinion penalties; just click the face of your character and you'll. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. The problem is of course that this isn't the county capital. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Not to mention that holding the wrong holding type means you are responsible for uphgrading. , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. g. Feudals aren't generally allowed to hold cities or temples without penalty. Mods. " By Anyone-4-CS in forum Networking & Security Replies: 6. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. There are 3 types of holdings: Castles, Cities and Temples. 2 - 250 years. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. As such, you will get that penalty any time you hold a city or a. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. It's nice to be able to revoke the titles penalty-free when you need more holdings in your domain. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of the solutions), or, assassinate the entire family holding the castle so that upon the last holder's death, it will revert to you. I have a warning message that the city and. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Fast forward a generation and the. Cities: Focus on tax. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. Crusader Kings II. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. makes sense. New posts. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 21 coastal. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. So I was playing the demo earlier and an 'alert button' popped up saying that a few of my provinces were the wrong type of holding in my demesne. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Fast forward a generation and the. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Launcher. . . That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. So im still not understanding this right. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Having 2 castles instead would help you a lot more, especially in terms of army size. . "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" | Paradox Interactive Forums "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" aliebling Feb 15, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply What. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I. And how I can change this. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Crusader Kings 2 is almost 5 years old, but the developers at Paradox are still producing new content for it in the form of patches and DLC. They are not the right type of holding. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Also, as you are just starting out odds are you are a Petty King, which is the same as a Duke, rather then an actual King. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. 8/11/2019 A demesne is a character's collection of personal holdings. They are not the right type of holding. Any help would be appreciated. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Left-click on the "Explore Character Opinions" button. If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. . My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. im playing the king of poland in 1066. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. . Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. No 6-holding. What you can do there is either build a new castle or find a way to inherit/revoke a vassal Baron's castle in the county, then make it the capital holding. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's. Any help would be appreciated. . Cities: Focus on tax. < >. Any help would be appreciated. Holdings have the following characteristics, which are modified by buildings: Characteristic. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. 18. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. Any help would be appreciated. Cities: Focus on tax. Rogue Rogues are stealthy warriors who can fight with ranged weapons or sneak behind enemies for a deadly backstab attack. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. . Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Fast forward a generation and the. . , I imprison/banish a mayor (as a king with one county), and take possession of his title. Crusader Kings 2 Wrong Holder Type; Also found in: Thesaurus, Legal, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia. I don't understand this. Each of these three types have an associated character type; baronies are typically owned by nobles, cities by. If you are for example playing Ireland and conquer ormond, you will get this warning. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. . . Each of these three types have an associated. Counties can have 3 types of holdings - baronies, cities, and bishoprics. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Wrong Type of Holding When I click on my capital, it no longer has the options to build anything and when i look at the intrigue panel again, it still says adopt feudalism but now. Temples & cities offer useless levy even at full strength. But I can't give it away. So, I'm the king of England. Any help would be appreciated. So here's a look at the county of Venezia: Image 2. I don't understand this. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Legend of grimrock 2 farmer. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. . g. All but 2 are coastal. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Fast forward a generation and the. . Tax Percentage is set by liege law. indefinitely. I'm playing a petty king in northern wales and captured the Isle of Mann. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. (Also, max out city tax focus laws). 21 total. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. . To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Step1: Get your hands on one of the castles (Depending on your Governmenttype it might also be a city or a tribe, but in this case you are feudal so you may only hold castles personally) Step2: Right click on it and choose "Make county capital". Fast forward a generation and the. 2. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. Also you cannot hold a holding that does not correspond to your type of government without penalty. types - castles, cities, temples or tribes. Thank you. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. The easiest way to do this is to click on a county that has the wrong types of holdings, right-click on the at holdings at the bottom of the county screen and select 'Create new vassal'. Cities are holdings commonly held by republic rulers. . Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. 28 total. It's true, in the county I just took, the castle is held by a baron, while the city is held by me. I am a new player of CK2 (current patch) playing as the feudal King of Sweden on the standard start date. And how I can change this.